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raft upon which he sails through life´not without risk�察�as I admit�察�if



he cannot find some word of God which will more surely and safely



carry him。 And now�察�as you bid me�察�I will venture to question you��



as I should not like to reproach myself hereafter with not having said



at the time what I think。 For when I consider the matter either



alone or with Cebes�察�the argument does certainly appear to me��



Socrates�察�to be not sufficient。



  Socrates answered�此�I dare say�察�my friend�察�that you may be right�察�but



I should like to know in what respect the argument is not sufficient。



  In this respect�察�replied Simmias�此�Might not a person use the same



argument about harmony and the lyre´might he not say that harmony is a



thing invisible�察�incorporeal�察�fair�察�divine�察�abiding in the lyre



which is harmonized�察�but that the lyre and the strings are matter



and material�察�composite�察�earthy�察�and akin to mortality�拭�And when



someone breaks the lyre�察�or cuts and rends the strings�察�then he who



takes this view would argue as you do�察�and on the same analogy�察�that



the harmony survives and has not perished�察�for you cannot imagine��



as we would say�察�that the lyre without the strings�察�and the broken



strings themselves�察�remain�察�and yet that the harmony�察�which is of



heavenly and immortal nature and kindred�察�has perished´and perished



too before the mortal。 The harmony�察�he would say�察�certainly exists



somewhere�察�and the wood and strings will decay before that decays。 For



I suspect�察�Socrates�察�that the notion of the soul which we are all of



us inclined to entertain�察�would also be yours�察�and that you too



would conceive the body to be strung up�察�and held together�察�by the



elements of hot and cold�察�wet and dry�察�and the like�察�and that the soul



is the harmony or due proportionate admixture of them。 And�察�if this is



true�察�the inference clearly is that when the strings of the body are



unduly loosened or overstrained through disorder or other injury�察�then



the soul�察�though most divine�察�like other harmonies of music or of



the works of art�察�of course perishes at once�察�although the material



remains of the body may last for a considerable time�察�until they are



either decayed or burnt。 Now if anyone maintained that the soul�察�being



the harmony of the elements of the body�察�first perishes in that



which is called death�察�how shall we answer him��



  Socrates looked round at us as his manner was�察�and said�察�with a



smile�此�Simmias has reason on his side�察�and why does not some one of



you who is abler than myself answer him�拭�for there is force in his



attack upon me。 But perhaps�察�before we answer him�察�we had better



also hear what Cebes has to say against the argument´this will give us



time for reflection�察�and when both of them have spoken�察�we may



either assent to them if their words appear to be in consonance with



the truth�察�or if not�察�we may take up the other side�察�and argue with



them。 Please to tell me then�察�Cebes�察�he said�察�what was the



difficulty which troubled you��



  Cebes said�此�I will tell you。 My feeling is that the argument is



still in the same position�察�and open to the same objections which were



urged before�察�for I am ready to admit that the existence of the soul



before entering into the bodily form has been very ingeniously�察�and��



as I may be allowed to say�察�quite sufficiently proven�察�but the



existence of the soul after death is still�察�in my judgment��



unproven。 Now my objection is not the same as that of Simmias�察�for I



am not disposed to deny that the soul is stronger and more lasting



than the body�察�being of opinion that in all such respects the soul



very far excels the body。 Well�察�then�察�says the argument to me�察�why



do you remain unconvinced�拭�When you see that the weaker is still in



existence after the man is dead�察�will you not admit that the more



lasting must also survive during the same period of time�拭�Now I��



like Simmias�察�must employ a figure�察�and I shall ask you to consider



whether the figure is to the point。 The parallel which I will



suppose is that of an old weaver�察�who dies�察�and after his death



somebody says�此�He is not dead�察�he must be alive�察�and he appeals to the



coat which he himself wove and wore�察�and which is still whole and



undecayed。 And then he proceeds to ask of someone who is



incredulous�察�whether a man lasts longer�察�or the coat which is in use



and wear�察�and when he is answered that a man lasts far longer��



thinks that he has thus certainly demonstrated the survival of the



man�察�who is the more lasting�察�because the less lasting remains。 But



that�察�Simmias�察�as I would beg you to observe�察�is not the truth��



everyone sees that he who talks thus is talking nonsense。 For the



truth is that this weaver�察�having worn and woven many such coats��



though he outlived several of them�察�was himself outlived by the



last�察�but this is surely very far from proving that a man is



slighter and weaker than a coat。 Now the relation of the body to the



soul may be expressed in a similar figure�察�for you may say with reason



that the soul is lasting�察�and the body weak and short´lived in



comparison。 And every soul may be said to wear out many bodies��



especially in the course of a long life。 For if while the man is alive



the body deliquesces and decays�察�and yet the soul always weaves her



garment anew and repairs the waste�察�then of course�察�when the soul



perishes�察�she must have on her last garment�察�and this only will



survive her�察�but then again when the soul is dead the body will at



last show its native weakness�察�and soon pass into decay。 And therefore



this is an argument on which I would rather not rely as proving that



the soul exists after death。 For suppose that we grant even more



than you affirm as within the range of possibility�察�and besides



acknowledging that the soul existed before birth admit also that after



death the souls of some are existing still�察�and will exist�察�and will



be born and die again and again�察�and that there is a natural



strength in the soul which will hold out and be born many times´for



all this�察�we may be still inclined to think that she will weary in the



labors of successive births�察�and may at last succumb in one of her



deaths and utterly perish�察�and this death and dissolution of the



body which brings destruction to the soul may be unknown to any of us��



for no one of us can have had any experience of it�此�and if this be



true�察�then I say that he who is confident in death has but a foolish



confidence�察�unless he is able to prove that the soul is altogether



immortal and imperishable。 But if he is not able to prove this�察�he who



is about to die will always have reason to fear that when the body



is disunited�察�the soul also may utterly perish。



  All of us�察�as we afterwards remarked to one another�察�had an



unpleasant feeling at hearing them say this。 When we had been so



firmly convinced before�察�now to have our faith shaken seemed to



introduce a confusion and uncertainty�察�not only into the previous



argument�察�but into any future one�察�either we were not good judges��



or there were no real grounds of belief。



  Ech。 There I feel with you´indeed I do�察�Phaedo�察�and when you were



speaking�察�I was beginning to ask myself the same question�此�What



argument can I ever trust again�拭�For what could be more convincing



than the argument of Socrates�察�which has now fallen into discredit��



That the soul is a harmony is a doctrine which has always had a



wonderful attraction for me�察�and�察�when mentioned�察�came back to me at



once�察�as my own original conviction。 And now I must begin again and



find another argument which will assure me that when the man is dead



the soul dies not with him。 Tell me�察�I beg�察�how did Socrates



proceed�拭�Did he appear to share the unpleasant feeling which you



mention�拭�or did he receive the interruption calmly and give a



sufficient answer�拭�Tell us�察�as exactly as you can�察�what passed。



  Phaed。 Often�察�Echecrates�察�as I have admired Socrates�察�I never



admired him more than at that moment。 That he should be able to answer



was nothing�察�but what astonished me was�察�first�察�the gentle and



pleasant and approving manner in which he regarded the words of the



young men�察�and then his quick sense of the wound which had been



inflicted by the argument�察�and his ready application of the healing



art。 He might be compared to a general rallying his defeated and



broken army�察�urging them to follow him and return to the field of



argument。



  Ech。 How was that��



  Phaed。 You shall hear�察�for I was close to him on his right hand��



seated on a sort of stool�察�and he on a couch which was a good deal



higher。 Now he had a way of playing with my hair�察�and then he smoothed



my head�察�and pressed the hair upon my neck�察�and said�此�To´morrow��



Phaedo�察�I suppose that these fair locks of yours will be severed。



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