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and   toil   and   pain。   He   had   noticed   the   undue   licence   which   one   of   his 

acquaintances allowed himself in all such matters。��2�А�Accordingly he thus 

addressed him�此�

     ��1�А  �This   sentence   in   the   Greek   concludes   Bk。   I。   There   is   something 

wrong or very awkward in the text here。 

     ��2�А�Cf。 Grote�察 �Plato�察─�III。 xxxviii。 p。 530。 

     Tell   me�察�Aristippus   ��Socrates   said���察  �supposing   you   had   two   children 

entrusted   to   you   to   educate�察  �one   of   them   must   be   brought   up   with   an 

aptitude for government�察�and the other without the faintest propensity to 

rulehow would you educate them�拭�What do you say�拭�Shall we begin our 

inquiry from the beginning�察�as it were�察�with the bare elements of food and 

nutriment�拭�

     Ar。 Yes�察  �food   to   begin   with�察 �by  all   means�察  �being   a   first   principle�撮�3�А�

without which there is no man living but would perish。 

     ��3�А�Aristippus plays upon the word ��arkhe��。 

     Soc。   Well�察  �then�察  �we   may   expect�察  �may   we   not�察  �that   a   desire   to   grasp 

food at certain seasons will exhibit itself in both the children�拭�

     Ar。 It is to be expected。 

     Soc。 Which�察�then�察�of the two must be trained�察�of his own free will�撮�4�А�

to prosecute a pressing business rather than gratify the belly�拭�



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     ��4�А。�proairesis��。 

     Ar。 No doubt the one who is being trained to govern�察�if we would not 

have affairs of state neglected during��5�А�his government。 

     ��5�А�Lit。 ;along of。; 

     Soc。 And the same pupil must be furnished with a power of   holding 

out against thirst also when the craving to quench it comes upon him�拭�

     Ar。 Certainly he must。 

     Soc。  And   on   which   of   the   two   shall   we   confer   such   self´control   in 

regard to sleep as shall enable him to rest late and rise early�察�or keep vigil�察�

if the need arise�拭�

     Ar。 To the same one of the two must be given that endurance also。 

     Soc。 Well�察�and a continence in regard to matters sexual so great that 

nothing of the sort shall prevent him from doing his duty�拭�Which of them 

claims that�拭�

     Ar。 The same one of the pair again。 

     Soc。 Well�察�and on which of the two shall be bestowed�察�as a further gift�察�

the voluntary resolution to face toils rather than turn and flee from them�拭�

     Ar。   This�察  �too�察  �belongs    of   right  to   him   who    is  being    trained   for 

government。 

     Soc。 Well�察�and to which of them will it better accord to be taught all 

knowledge necessary towards the mastery of antagonists�拭�

     Ar。 To our future ruler certainly�察�for without these parts of learning all 

his other capacities will be merely waste。 

     Soc。 ��6��Will not a man so educated be less liable to be entrapped by 

rival powers�察  �and   so   escape   a   common   fate   of living   creatures�察  �some   of 

which   ��as   we   all   know��   are   hooked   through   their   own   greediness�察  �and 

often even in spite of a native shyness�察�but through appetite for food they 

are   drawn   towards   the   bait�察  �and   are   caught�察  �while   others   are   similarly 

ensnared by drink�拭�

     ��6�А。�SS。 4�察�5�察�L。 Dind。 ed Lips。�А�

     Ar。 Undoubtedly。 

     Soc。   And   others   again   are   victims   of   amorous   heat�察  �as   quails�察  �for 

instance�察  �or   partridges�察  �which�察  �at   the   cry   of   the   hen´bird�察  �with   lust   and 



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expectation   of   such   joys   grow   wild�察  �and   lose   their   power   of   computing 

dangers�此�on they rush�察�and fall into the snare of the hunter�拭�

     Aristippus assented。 

     Soc。 And would it not seem to be a base thing for a man to be affected 

like the silliest bird or beast�拭�as when the adulterer invades the innermost 

sanctum��7�А�of the house�察�though he is well aware of the risks which his 

crime involves�撮�8�А�the formidable penalties of the law�察�the danger of being 

caught in the toils�察�and then suffering the direst contumely。 Considering all 

the   hideous   penalties   which   hang   over   the   adulterer's   head�察  �considering 

also   the   many   means   at   hand   to   release   him   from   the   thraldom   of   his 

passion�察  �that   a   man   should   so   drive   headlong   on   to   the   quicksands   of 

perdition��9��what are we to say of such frenzy�拭�The wretch who can so 

behave must surely be tormented by an evil spirit�殖�10�А�

     ��7�А。�eis as eirktas��。 The penetralia。 

     ��8�А�Or�察 �he knows the risks he runs of suffering those penalties with 

which the law threatens his crime should he fall into the snare�察                       �and 

being caught�察�be mutilated。; 

     ��9�А�Or�察 �leap headlong into the jaws of danger。; 

     ��10�А。�kakodaimonontos��。 

     Ar。 So it strikes me。 

     Soc。 And does it not strike you as a sign of strange indifference that�察�

whereas   the   greater   number   of   the   indispensable   affairs   of   men�察  �as   for 

instance�察�those of war and agriculture�察�and more than half the rest�察�need to 

be conducted under the broad canopy of heaven�撮�11�А �yet the majority of 

men are quite untrained to wrestle with cold and heat�拭�

     ��11�А�Or�察 �in the open air。; 

     Aristippus again assented。 

     Soc。 And do you not agree that he who is destined to rule must train 

himself to bear these things lightly�拭�

     Ar。 Most certainly。 

     Soc。 And   whilst   we   rank   those   who   are   self´disciplined   in   all   these 

matters among persons fit to rule�察�we are bound to place those incapable of 

such     conduct     in   the   category     of   persons     without     any    pretension 



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whatsoever to be rulers�拭�

     Ar。 I assent。 

     Soc。 Well�察�then�察�since you know the rank peculiar to either section of 

mankind�察 �did it   ever strike   you   to   consider to   which of   the two   you   are 

best entitled to belong�拭�

     Yes    I  have   ��replied    Aristippus��。     I  do  not   dream   for    a  moment      of 

ranking myself in the class of those who wish to rule。 In fact�察�considering 

how  serious   a  business  it   is   to   cater  for   one's  own   private   needs�察 �I   look 

upon   it   as   the   mark   of   a   fool   not   to   be   content   with   that�察 �but   to   further 

saddle oneself with the duty of providing the rest of the community with 

whatever they may be pleased to want。 That�察�at the cost of much personal 

enjoyment�察�a man should put himself at the head of a state�察�and then�察�if he 

fail   to   carry  through   every  jot   and tittle of   that   state's   desire�察  �be held   to 

criminal account�察�does  seem to   me   the   very extravagance   of   folly。 Why�察�

bless me� �states claim to treat their rulers precisely as I treat my domestic 

slaves。     I  expect    my    attendants    to   furnish    me   with    an   abundance      of 

necessaries�察�but not to lay a finger on one of them themselves。 So these 

states   regard   it   as   the   duty  of   a   ruler  to   provide   them  with   all   the   good 

things imaginable�察�but to keep his own hands off them all the while。��12�А�

So    then�察   �for  my    part�察  �if  anybody     desires    to  have    a  heap    of   pother 

himself�撮�13�А�and be a nuisance to the rest of the world�察�I will educate him 

in the manner suggested�察�and he shall take his place among those who are 

fit to rule�察�but for myself�察�I beg to be enrolled amongst those who wish to 

spend their days as easily and pleasantly as possible。 

     ��12�А�Or�察 �but he must have no finger in the pie himself。; 

     ��13�А�See Kuhner ad loc。 

     Soc。 Shall we then at this point turn and inquire which of the two are 

likely to lead the pleasanter life�察�the rulers or the ruled�拭�

     Ar。 By all means let us do so。 

     Soc。 To begin then with the nations and races known to ourselves。��14�А�

In Asia the Persians are the rulers�察�while the Syrians�察�Phrygians�察�Lydians 

are ruled�察�and in Europe we find the Scythians ruling�察�and the Maeotians 

being ruled。 In Africa��15�А�the Carthaginians are rulers�察�the Libyans ruled。 



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Which of these two sets respectively leads the happier life�察�in your opinion�拭�

Or�察   �to  come     nearer    homeyou       are   yourself    a  Hellenewhich        among 

Hellenes      enjoy   the    happier    existence�察   �think    you�察  �the   dominant      or  the 

subject states�拭�

     ��14�А�Or�察 �the outer world�察�the non´Hellenic races and nationalities of 

which we have any knowledge。; 

 

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