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                                     380 BC



                                   PROTAGORAS



                                    by Plato



                         translated by Benjamin Jowett



PROTAGORAS



  PERSONS OF THE DIALOGUE�此�SOCRATES�察�who is the narrator of the



Dialogue to his Companion�察�HIPPOCRATES�察�ALCIBIADES�察�CRINAS��



PROTAGORAS�察�HIPPIAS�察�PRODICUS�察�Sophists�察�CALLIAS�察�a wealthy



Athenian。 Scene�此�The House of Callias







  Com。 Where do you come from�察�Socrates�拭�And yet I need hardly ask the



question�察�for I know that you have been in chase of the fair



Alcibiades。 I saw the day before yesterday�察�and he had got a beard



like a man´and he is a man�察�as I may tell you in your ear。 But I



thought that he was still very charming。



  Soc。 What of his beard�拭�Are you not of Homer's opinion�察�who says







     Youth is most charming when the beard first appears��







And that is now the charm of Alcibiades。



  Com。 Well�察�and how do matters proceed�拭�Have you been visiting him��



and was he gracious to you��



  Soc。 Yes�察�I thought that he was very gracious�察�and especially



to´day�察�for I have just come from him�察�and he has been helping me in



an argument。 But shall I tell you a strange thing�拭�I paid no attention



to him�察�and several times I quite forgot that he was present。



  Com。 What is the meaning of this�拭�Has anything happened between



you and him�拭�For surely you cannot have discovered a fairer love



than he is�察�certainly not in this city of Athens。



  Soc。 Yes�察�much fairer。



  Com。 What do you mean´a citizen or a foreigner��



  Soc。 A foreigner。



  Com。 Of what country��



  Soc。 Of Abdera。



  Com。 And is this stranger really in your opinion a fairer love



than the son of Cleinias��



  Soc。 And is not the wiser always the fairer�察�sweet friend��



  Com。 But have you really met�察�Socrates�察�with some wise one��



  Soc。 Say rather�察�with the wisest of all living men�察�if you are



willing to accord that title to Protagoras。



  Com。 What� �Is Protagoras in Athens��



  Soc。 Yes�察�he has been here two days。



  Com。 And do you just come from an interview with him��



  Soc。 Yes�察�and I have heard and said many things。



  Com。 Then�察�if you have no engagement�察�suppose that you sit down tell



me what passed�察�and my attendant here shall give up his place to you。



  Soc。 To be sure�察�and I shall be grateful to you for listening。



  Com。 Thank you�察�too�察�for telling us。



  Soc。 That is thank you twice over。 Listen then�此�



  Last night�察�or rather very early this morning�察�Hippocrates�察�the



son of Apollodorus and the brother of Phason�察�gave a tremendous



thump with his staff at my door�察�some one opened to him�察�and he came



rushing in and bawled out�此�Socrates�察�are you awake or asleep��



  I knew his voice�察�and said�此�Hippocrates�察�is that you�拭�and do you



bring any news��



  Good news�察�he said�察�nothing but good。



  Delightful�察�I said�察�but what is the news�拭�and why have you come



hither at this unearthly hour��



  He drew nearer to me and said�此�Protagoras is come。



  Yes�察�I replied�察�he came two days ago�此�have you only just heard of



his arrival��



  Yes�察�by the gods�察�he said�察�but not until yesterday evening。



  At the same time he felt for the truckle´bed�察�and sat down at my



feet�察�and then he said�此�Yesterday quite late in the evening�察�on my



return from Oenoe whither I had gone in pursuit of my runaway slave



Satyrus�察�as I meant to have told you�察�if some other matter had not



come in the way�察�on my return�察�when we had done supper and were



about to retire to rest�察�my brother said to me�此�Protagoras is come。



I was going to you at once�察�and then I thought that the night was



far spent。 But the moment sleep left me after my fatigue�察�I got up and



came hither direct。



  I�察�who knew the very courageous madness of the man�察�said�此�What is



the matter�拭�Has Protagoras robbed you of anything��



  He replied�察�laughing�此�Yes�察�indeed he has�察�Socrates�察�of the wisdom



which he keeps from me。



  But�察�surely�察�I said�察�if you give him money�察�and make friends with



him�察�he will make you as wise as he is himself。





  Would to heaven�察�he replied�察�that this were the case� �He might



take all that I have�察�and all that my friends have�察�if he pleased。 But



that is why I have come to you now�察�in order that you may speak to him



on my behalf�察�for I am young�察�and also I have never seen nor heard



him�察。�when he visited Athens before I was but a child�� and all men



praise him�察�Socrates�察�he is reputed to be the most accomplished of



speakers。 There is no reason why we should not go to him at once��



and then we shall find him at home。 He lodges�察�as I hear�察�with Callias



the son of Hipponicus�此�let us start。



  I replied�此�Not yet�察�my good friend�察�the hour is too early。 But let



us rise and take a turn in the court and wait about there until



daybreak�察�when the day breaks�察�then we will go。 For Protagoras is



generally at home�察�and we shall be sure to find him�察�never fear。



  Upon this we got up and walked about in the court�察�and I thought



that I would make trial of the strength of his resolution。 So I



examined him and put questions to him。 Tell me�察�Hippocrates�察�I said��



as you are going to Protagoras�察�and will be paying your money to



him�察�what is he to whom you are going�拭�and what will he make of you��



If�察�for example�察�you had thought of going to Hippocrates of Cos�察�the



Asclepiad�察�and were about to give him your money�察�and some one had



said to you�此�You are paying money to your namesake Hippocrates�察�O



Hippocrates�察�tell me�察�what is he that you give him money�拭�how would



you have answered��



  I should say�察�he replied�察�that I gave money to him as a physician。



  And what will he make of you��



  A physician�察�he said。



  And if you were resolved to go to Polycleitus the Argive�察�or



Pheidias the Athenian�察�and were intending to give them money�察�and some



one had asked you�此�What are Polycleitus and Pheidias�拭�and why do you



give them this money�拭�how would you have answered��



  I should have answered�察�that they were statuaries。



  And what will they make of you��



  A statuary�察�of course。



  Well now�察�I said�察�you and I are going to Protagoras�察�and we are



ready to pay him money on your behalf。 If our own means are



sufficient�察�and we can gain him with these�察�we shall be only too glad��



but if not�察�then we are to spend the money of your friends as well。



Now suppose�察�that while we are thus enthusiastically pursuing our



object some one were to say to us�此�Tell me�察�Socrates�察�and you



Hippocrates�察�what is Protagoras�察�and why are you going to pay him



money�察�how should we answer�拭�I know that Pheidias is a sculptor�察�and



that Homer is a poet�察�but what appellation is given to Protagoras�拭�how



is he designated��



  They call him a Sophist�察�Socrates�察�he replied。



  Then we are going to pay our money to him in the character of a



Sophist��



  Certainly。



  But suppose a person were to ask this further question�此�And how



about yourself�拭�What will Protagoras make of you�察�if you go to see



him��



  He answered�察�with a blush upon his face ��for the day was just



beginning to dawn�察�so that I could see him���此�Unless this differs in



some way from the former instances�察�I suppose that he will make a



Sophist of me。



  By the gods�察�I said�察�and are you not ashamed at having to appear



before the Hellenes in the character of a Sophist��



  Indeed�察�Socrates�察�to confess the truth�察�I am。



  But you should not assume�察�Hippocrates�察�that the instruction of



Protagoras is of this nature�此�may you not learn of him in the same way



that you learned the arts of the grammarian�察�musician�察�or trainer�察�not



with the view of making any of them a profession�察�but only as a part



of education�察�and because a private gentleman and freeman ought to



know them��



  Just so�察�he said�察�and that�察�in my opinion�察�is a far truer account of



the teaching of Protagoras。



  I said�此�I wonder whether you know what you are doing��



  And what am I doing��



  You are going to commit your soul to the care of a man whom you call



a Sophist。 And yet I hardly think that you know what a Sophist is�察�and



if not�察�then you do not even know to whom you are committing your soul



and whether the thing to which you commit yourself be good or evil。



  I certainly think that I do know�察�he replied。



  Then tell me�察�what do you imagine that he is��



  I take him to be one who knows wise things�察�he replied�察�as his



name implies。



  And might you not�察�I said�察�affirm this of the painter and of the



carpenter also�此�Do not they�察�too�察�know wise things�拭�But suppose a



person were to ask us�此�In what are the painters wise�拭�We should



answer�此�In what relates to the making of likenesses�察�and similarly



of other things。 And if he were further to ask�此�What is the wisdom



of the Sophist�察�and wh

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