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be a poet or maker�察�should not only put words together but make
stories�察�and as I have no invention�察�I took some fables of esop�察�which
I had ready at hand and knew�察�and turned them into verse。 Tell
Evenus this�察�and bid him be of good cheer�察�that I would have him
come after me if he be a wise man�察�and not tarry�察�and that to´day I am
likely to be going�察�for the Athenians say that I must。
Simmias said�此�What a message for such a man� �having been a
frequent companion of his�察�I should say that�察�as far as I know him�察�he
will never take your advice unless he is obliged。
Why�察�said Socrates�察�is not Evenus a philosopher��
I think that he is�察�said Simmias。
Then he�察�or any man who has the spirit of philosophy�察�will be
willing to die�察�though he will not take his own life�察�for that is held
not to be right。
Here he changed his position�察�and put his legs off the couch on to
the ground�察�and during the rest of the conversation he remained
sitting。
Why do you say�察�inquired Cebes�察�that a man ought not to take his own
life�察�but that the philosopher will be ready to follow the dying��
Socrates replied�此�And have you�察�Cebes and Simmias�察�who are
acquainted with Philolaus�察�never heard him speak of this��
I never understood him�察�Socrates。
My words�察�too�察�are only an echo�察�but I am very willing to say what I
have heard�此�and indeed�察�as I am going to another place�察�I ought to
be thinking and talking of the nature of the pilgrimage which I am
about to make。 What can I do better in the interval between this and
the setting of the sun��
Then tell me�察�Socrates�察�why is suicide held not to be right�拭�as I
have certainly heard Philolaus affirm when he was staying with us at
Thebes�此�and there are others who say the same�察�although none of them
has ever made me understand him。
But do your best�察�replied Socrates�察�and the day may come when you
will understand。 I suppose that you wonder why�察�as most things which
are evil may be accidentally good�察�this is to be the only exception
��for may not death�察�too�察�be better than life in some cases�殖��察�and why��
when a man is better dead�察�he is not permitted to be his own
benefactor�察�but must wait for the hand of another。
By Jupiter� �yes�察�indeed�察�said Cebes�察�laughing�察�and speaking in his
native Doric。
I admit the appearance of inconsistency�察�replied Socrates�察�but there
may not be any real inconsistency after all in this。 There is a
doctrine uttered in secret that man is a prisoner who has no right
to open the door of his prison and run away�察�this is a great mystery
which I do not quite understand。 Yet I�察�too�察�believe that the gods are
our guardians�察�and that we are a possession of theirs。 Do you not
agree��
Yes�察�I agree to that�察�said Cebes。
And if one of your own possessions�察�an ox or an ass�察�for example
took the liberty of putting himself out of the way when you had
given no intimation of your wish that he should die�察�would you not
be angry with him�察�and would you not punish him if you could��
Certainly�察�replied Cebes。
Then there may be reason in saying that a man should wait�察�and not
take his own life until God summons him�察�as he is now summoning me。
Yes�察�Socrates�察�said Cebes�察�there is surely reason in that。 And yet
how can you reconcile this seemingly true belief that God is our
guardian and we his possessions�察�with that willingness to die which we
were attributing to the philosopher�拭�That the wisest of men should
be willing to leave this service in which they are ruled by the gods
who are the best of rulers is not reasonable�察�for surely no wise man
thinks that when set at liberty he can take better care of himself
than the gods take of him。 A fool may perhaps think this´he may
argue that he had better run away from his master�察�not considering
that his duty is to remain to the end�察�and not to run away from the
good�察�and that there is no sense in his running away。 But the wise man
will want to be ever with him who is better than himself。 Now this��
Socrates�察�is the reverse of what was just now said�察�for upon this view
the wise man should sorrow and the fool rejoice at passing out of
life。
The earnestness of Cebes seemed to please Socrates。 Here�察�said he��
turning to us�察�is a man who is always inquiring�察�and is not to be
convinced all in a moment�察�nor by every argument。
And in this case�察�added Simmias�察�his objection does appear to me
to have some force。 For what can be the meaning of a truly wise man
wanting to fly away and lightly leave a master who is better than
himself�拭�And I rather imagine that Cebes is referring to you�察�he
thinks that you are too ready to leave us�察�and too ready to leave
the gods who�察�as you acknowledge�察�are our good rulers。
Yes�察�replied Socrates�察�there is reason in that。 And this
indictment you think that I ought to answer as if I were in court��
That is what we should like�察�said Simmias。
Then I must try to make a better impression upon you than I did when
defending myself before the judges。 For I am quite ready to
acknowledge�察�Simmias and Cebes�察�that I ought to be grieved at death��
if I were not persuaded that I am going to other gods who are wise and
good ��of this I am as certain as I can be of anything of the sort�� and
to men departed ��though I am not so certain of this���察�who are better
than those whom I leave behind�察�and therefore I do not grieve as I
might have done�察�for I have good hope that there is yet something
remaining for the dead�察�and�察�as has been said of old�察�some far
better thing for the good than for the evil。
But do you mean to take away your thoughts with you�察�Socrates��
said Simmias。 Will you not communicate them to us�拭�the benefit is
one in which we too may hope to share。 Moreover�察�if you succeed in
convincing us�察�that will be an answer to the charge against yourself。
I will do my best�察�replied Socrates。 But you must first let me
hear what Crito wants�察�he was going to say something to me。
Only this�察�Socrates�察�replied Crito�此�the attendant who is to give you
the poison has been telling me that you are not to talk much�察�and he
wants me to let you know this�察�for that by talking heat is
increased�察�and this interferes with the action of the poison�察�those
who excite themselves are sometimes obliged to drink the poison two or
three times。
Then�察�said Socrates�察�let him mind his business and be prepared to
give the poison two or three times�察�if necessary�察�that is all。
I was almost certain that you would say that�察�replied Crito�察�but I
was obliged to satisfy him。
Never mind him�察�he said。
And now I will make answer to you�察�O my judges�察�and show that he who
has lived as a true philosopher has reason to be of good cheer when he
is about to die�察�and that after death he may hope to receive the
greatest good in the other world。 And how this may be�察�Simmias and
Cebes�察�I will endeavor to explain。 For I deem that the true disciple
of philosophy is likely to be misunderstood by other men�察�they do
not perceive that he is ever pursuing death and dying�察�and if this
is true�察�why�察�having had the desire of death all his life long�察�should
he repine at the arrival of that which he has been always pursuing and
desiring��
Simmias laughed and said�此�Though not in a laughing humor�察�I swear
that I cannot help laughing when I think what the wicked world will
say when they hear this。 They will say that this is very true�察�and our
people at home will agree with them in saying that the life which
philosophers desire is truly death�察�and that they have found them
out to be deserving of the death which they desire。
And they are right�察�Simmias�察�in saying this�察�with the exception of
the words ;They have found them out;�察�for they have not found out what
is the nature of this death which the true philosopher desires�察�or how
he deserves or desires death。 But let us leave them and have a word
with ourselves�此�Do we believe that there is such a thing as death��
To be sure�察�replied Simmias。
And is this anything but the separation of soul and body�拭�And
being dead is the attainment of this separation�察�when the soul
exists in herself�察�and is parted from the body and the body is
parted from the soul´that is death��
Exactly�此�that and nothing else�察�he replied。
And what do you say of another question�察�my friend�察�about which I
should like to have your opinion�察�and the answer to which will
probably throw light on our present inquiry�此�Do you think that the
philosopher ought to care about the pleasures´if they are to be called
pleasures´of eating and drinking��
Certainly not�察�answered Simmias。
And what do you say of the pleasures of love´should he care about
them��
By no means。
And will he thin