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opposites are inherent and which are called after them�察�but now
about the opposites which are inherent in them and which give their
name to them�察�these essential opposites will never�察�as we maintain��
admit of generation into or out of one another。 At the same time��
turning to Cebes�察�he said�此�Were you at all disconcerted�察�Cebes�察�at our
friend's objection��
That was not my feeling�察�said Cebes�察�and yet I cannot deny that I am
apt to be disconcerted。
Then we are agreed after all�察�said Socrates�察�that the opposite
will never in any case be opposed to itself��
To that we are quite agreed�察�he replied。
Yet once more let me ask you to consider the question from another
point of view�察�and see whether you agree with me�此�There is a thing
which you term heat�察�and another thing which you term cold��
Certainly。
But are they the same as fire and snow��
Most assuredly not。
Heat is not the same as fire�察�nor is cold the same as snow��
No。
And yet you will surely admit that when snow�察�as before said�察�is
under the influence of heat�察�they will not remain snow and heat�察�but
at the advance of the heat the snow will either retire or perish��
Very true�察�he replied。
And the fire too at the advance of the cold will either retire or
perish�察�and when the fire is under the influence of the cold�察�they
will not remain�察�as before�察�fire and cold。
That is true�察�he said。
And in some cases the name of the idea is not confined to the
idea�察�but anything else which�察�not being the idea�察�exists only in
the form of the idea�察�may also lay claim to it。 I will try to make
this clearer by an example�此�The odd number is always called by the
name of odd��
Very true。
But is this the only thing which is called odd�拭�Are there not
other things which have their own name�察�and yet are called odd��
because�察�although not the same as oddness�察�they are never without
oddness�拭�that is what I mean to ask´whether numbers such as the number
three are not of the class of odd。 And there are many other
examples�此�would you not say�察�for example�察�that three may be called
by its proper name�察�and also be called odd�察�which is not the same with
three�拭�and this may be said not only of three but also of five�察�and
every alternate number´each of them without being oddness is odd��
and in the same way two and four�察�and the whole series of alternate
numbers�察�has every number even�察�without being evenness。 Do you admit
that��
Yes�察�he said�察�how can I deny that��
Then now mark the point at which I am aiming�此�not only do
essential opposites exclude one another�察�but also concrete things��
which�察�although not in themselves opposed�察�contain opposites�察�these�察�I
say�察�also reject the idea which is opposed to that which is
contained in them�察�and at the advance of that they either perish or
withdraw。 There is the number three for example�察�will not that
endure annihilation or anything sooner than be converted into an
even number�察�remaining three��
Very true�察�said Cebes。
And yet�察�he said�察�the number two is certainly not opposed to the
number three��
It is not。
Then not only do opposite ideas repel the advance of one another��
but also there are other things which repel the approach of opposites。
That is quite true�察�he said。
Suppose�察�he said�察�that we endeavor�察�if possible�察�to determine what
these are。
By all means。
Are they not�察�Cebes�察�such as compel the things of which they have
possession�察�not only to take their own form�察�but also the form of some
opposite��
What do you mean��
I mean�察�as I was just now saying�察�and have no need to repeat to you��
that those things which are possessed by the number three must not
only be three in number�察�but must also be odd。
Quite true。
And on this oddness�察�of which the number three has the impress��
the opposite idea will never intrude��
No。
And this impress was given by the odd principle��
Yes。
And to the odd is opposed the even��
True。
Then the idea of the even number will never arrive at three��
No。
Then three has no part in the even��
None。
Then the triad or number three is uneven��
Very true。
To return then to my distinction of natures which are not opposites��
and yet do not admit opposites�此�as�察�in this instance�察�three��
although not opposed to the even�察�does not any the more admit of the
even�察�but always brings the opposite into play on the other side�察�or
as two does not receive the odd�察�or fire the cold´from these
examples ��and there are many more of them�� perhaps you may be able
to arrive at the general conclusion that not only opposites will not
receive opposites�察�but also that nothing which brings the opposite
will admit the opposite of that which it brings in that to which it is
brought。 And here let me recapitulate´for there is no harm in
repetition。 The number five will not admit the nature of the even�察�any
more than ten�察�which is the double of five�察�will admit the nature of
the odd´the double�察�though not strictly opposed to the odd�察�rejects
the odd altogether。 Nor again will parts in the ratio of 3��2�察�nor
any fraction in which there is a half�察�nor again in which there is a
third�察�admit the notion of the whole�察�although they are not opposed to
the whole。 You will agree to that��
Yes�察�he said�察�I entirely agree and go along with you in that。
And now�察�he said�察�I think that I may begin again�察�and to the
question which I am about to ask I will beg you to give not the old
safe answer�察�but another�察�of which I will offer you an example�察�and
I hope that you will find in what has been just said another
foundation which is as safe。 I mean that if anyone asks you ;what that
is�察�the inherence of which makes the body hot�察─�you will reply not
heat ��this is what I call the safe and stupid answer���察�but fire�察�a far
better answer�察�which we are now in a condition to give。 Or if anyone
asks you ;why a body is diseased�察─�you will not say from disease��
but from fever�察�and instead of saying that oddness is the cause of odd
numbers�察�you will say that the monad is the cause of them�此�and so of
things in general�察�as I dare say that you will understand sufficiently
without my adducing any further examples。
Yes�察�he said�察�I quite understand you。
Tell me�察�then�察�what is that the inherence of which will render the
body alive��
The soul�察�he replied。
And is this always the case��
Yes�察�he said�察�of course。
Then whatever the soul possesses�察�to that she comes bearing life��
Yes�察�certainly。
And is there any opposite to life��
There is�察�he said。
And what is that��
Death。
Then the soul�察�as has been acknowledged�察�will never receive the
opposite of what she brings。 And now�察�he said�察�what did we call that
principle which repels the even��
The odd。
And that principle which repels the musical�察�or the just��
The unmusical�察�he said�察�and the unjust。
And what do we call the principle which does not admit of death��
The immortal�察�he said。
And does the soul admit of death��
No。
Then the soul is immortal��
Yes�察�he said。
And may we say that this is proven��
Yes�察�abundantly proven�察�Socrates�察�he replied。
And supposing that the odd were imperishable�察�must not three be
imperishable��
Of course。
And if that which is cold were imperishable�察�when the warm principle
came attacking the snow�察�must not the snow have retired whole and
unmelted´for it could never have perished�察�nor could it have
remained and admitted the heat��
True�察�he said。
Again�察�if the uncooling or warm principle were imperishable�察�the
fire when assailed by cold would not have perished or have been
extinguished�察�but would have gone away unaffected��
Certainly�察�he said。
And the same may be said of the immortal�此�if the immortal is also
imperishable�察�the soul when attacked by death cannot perish�察�for the
preceding argument shows that the soul will not admit of death�察�or
ever be dead�察�any more than three or the odd number will admit of
the even�察�or fire or the heat in the fire�察�of the cold。 Yet a person
may say�此 �But although the odd will not become even at the approach of
the even�察�why may not the odd perish and the even take the place of
the odd�拭─�Now to him who makes this objection�察�we cannot answer that
the odd principle is imperishable�察�for this has not been acknowledged��
but if this had been acknowledged�察�there would have been no difficulty
in contending that at the approach of the even the odd principle and
the number three took up their departure�察�and the same argument
would have held good of fire and heat and any other thing。
Very true。
And the