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rather your object is to teach me that the would´be general must make
such things his care。 I admit in any case all you say。
Socrates proceeded�此�Has it ever caught your observation�察�Pericles�察�that
a high mountain barrier stretches like a bulwark in front of our country
down towards Boeotiacleft�察�moreover�察�by narrow and precipitous passes�察�
the only avenues into the heart of Attica�察�which lies engirdled by a ring of
natural fortresses�殖�31�А�
��31�А�The mountains are Cithaeron and Parnes N。�察�and Cerata N。W。
Per。 Certainly I have。
Soc。 Well�察�and have you ever heard tell of the Mysians and Pisidians
living within the territory of the great king�撮�32�А�who�察�inside their mountain
fortresses�察�lightly armed�察�are able to rush down and inflict much injury on
the king's territory by their raids�察�while preserving their own freedom�拭�
��32�А�For this illustration see ;Anab。; III。 ii。 23�察�cf。 ;Econ。; iv。 18�察�
where Socrates �┌�XS���� refers to Cyrus's expedition and death。
Per。 Yes�察�the circumstance is not new to me。
And do you not think ��added Socrates�� that a corps of young able´
bodied Athenians�察�accoutred with lighter arms�撮�33�А�and holding our natural
mountain rampart in possession�察 �would prove at once a thorn in the
enemy's side offensively�察 �whilst defensively they would form a splendid
bulwark to protect the country�拭�
��33�А�Cf。 the reforms of Iphicrates。
To which Pericles�此 �I think�察 �Socrates�察 �these would be all useful
measures�察�decidedly。
If�察 �then ��replied Socrates���察 �these suggestions meet your approbation�察�
try�察�O best of men�察�to realise themif you can carry out a portion of them�察�
it will be an honour to yourself and a blessing to the state�察�while�察�if you
fail in any point�察�there will be no damage done to the city nor discredit to
yourself。
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Glaucon�撮�1�А�the son of Ariston�察�had conceived such an ardour to gain
the headship of the state that nothing could hinder him but he must deliver
a course of public speeches�撮�2�А�though he had not yet reached the age of
twenty。 His friends and relatives tried in vain to stop him making himself
ridiculous and being dragged down from the bema。��3�А�Socrates�察�who took
a kindly interest in the youth for the sake of Charmides��4�А �the son of
Glaucon�察 �and of Plato�察 �alone succeeded in restraining him。 It happened
thus。 He fell in with him�察�and first of all�察�to get him to listen�察�detained him
by some such remarks as the following�今�5�А�
��1�А�Glaucon�察�Plato's brother。 Grote�察 �Plato�察─�i。 508。
��2�А �Harangue the People。;
��3�А�See Plat。 ;Protag。; 319 C�此 �And if some person offers to give them
advice who is not supposed by them to have any skill in the art ��sc。
of politics�В察 �even though he be good´looking�察 �and rich�察 �and noble�察�
they will not listen to him�察�but laugh at him�察�and hoot him�察�until he is
either clamoured down and retires of himself�察�or if he persists�察�he is
dragged away or put out by the constables at the command of the
prytanes; ��Jowett��。 Cf。 Aristoph。 ;Knights�察─ �665�察。�kath eilkon auton
oi prutaneis kai toxotai��。
��4�А �For Charmides ��maternal uncle of Plato and Glaucon�察 �cousin of
Critias�� see ch。 vii。 below�察�Plato the philosopher�察�Glaucon's brother�察�
see Cobet�察 �Pros。 Xen。; p。 28。
��5�А �Or�察 �and in the first instance addressing him in such terms he
could not choose but hear�察 �detained him。; See above�察 �II。 vi。 11。
Socrates applies his own theory。
Ah�察�Glaucon ��he exclaimed���察�so you have determined to become prime
minister�殖�6�А�
��6�А。�prostateuein��。
Glauc。 Yes�察�Socrates�察�I have。
Soc。 And what a noble aim� �if aught human ever deserved to be called
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noble�察�since if you succeed in your design�察�it follows�察�as the night the day�察�
you will be able not only to gratify your every wish�察�but you will be in a
position to benefit your friends�察�you will raise up your father's house�察�you
will exalt your fatherland�察�you will become a name thrice famous in the
city first�察 �and next in Hellas�察 �and lastly even among barbarians perhaps�察�
like Themistocles�察�but be it here or be it there�察�wherever you be�察�you will
be the observed of all beholders。��7�А�
��7�А �The centre of attractionthe cynosure of neighbouring eyes。;
The heart of Glaucon swelled with pride as he drank in the words�察�and
gladly he stayed to listen。
Presently Socrates proceeded�此 �Then this is clear�察 �Glaucon�察 �is it not�拭�
that you must needs benefit the city�察�since you desire to reap her honours�拭�
Glauc。 Undoubtedly。
Then�察�by all that is sacred ��Socrates continued���察�do not keep us in the
dark�察�but tell us in what way do you propose first to benefit the state�拭�what
is your starting´point�殖�8�А�When Glaucon remained with sealed lips�察�as if
he were now for the first time debating what this starting´point should be�察�
Socrates continued�此�I presume�察�if you wished to improve a friend's estate�察�
you would endeavour to do so by adding to its wealth�察�would you not�拭�So
here�察�maybe�察�you will try to add to the wealth of the state�拭�
��8�А �Or�察 �tell us what your starting´point will be in the path of
benefaction。;
Most decidedly ��he answered��。
Soc。 And we may take it the state will grow wealthier in proportion as
her revenues increase�拭�
Glauc。 That seems probable�察�at any rate。
Soc。 Then would you kindly tell us from what sources the revenues of
the state are at present derived�察�and what is their present magnitude�拭�No
doubt you have gone carefully into the question�察�so that if any of these are
failing you may make up the deficit�察�or if neglected for any reason�察�make
some new provision。��9�А�
��9�А�Or�察 �or if others have dropped out or been negligently overlooked�察�
you may replace them。;
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Glauc。 Nay�察�to speak the truth�察�these are matters I have not thoroughly
gone into。
Never mind ��he said�� if you have omitted the point�察 �but you might
oblige us by running through the items or heads of expenditure。 Obviously
you propose to remove all those which are superfluous�拭�
Glauc。 Well�察�no。 Upon my word I have not had time to look into that
side of the matter either as yet。
Soc。 Then we will postpone for the present the problem of making the
state wealthier�察 �obviously without knowing the outgoings and the
incomings it would be impossible to deal with the matter seriously。
But�察�Socrates ��Glaucon remarked���察�it is possible to enrich the state out
of the pockets of her enemies� �
Yes�察 �to be sure�察 �considerably ��answered Socrates���察 �in the event of
getting the better of them�察 �but in the event of being worsted�察 �it is also
possible to lose what we have got。
A true observation ��he replied��。
And therefore ��proceeded Socrates���察�before he makes up his mind with
what enemy to go to war�察�a statesman should know the relative powers of
his own city and the adversary's�察�so that�察�in case the superiority be on his
own side�察 �he may throw the weight of his advice into the scale of
undertaking war�察�but if the opposite he may plead in favour of exercising
caution。
You are right ��he answered��。
Soc。 Then would you for our benefit enumerate the land and naval
forces first of Athens and then of our opponents�拭�
Glauc。 Pardon me。 I could not tell you them off´hand at a moment's
notice。
Or ��added Socrates���察�if you have got the figures on paper�察�you might
produce them。 I cannot tell how anxious I am to hear your statement。
Glauc。 No�察�I assure you�察�I have not got them even on paper yet。
Soc。 Well then�察�we will defer tending advice on the topic of peace or
war�察�in a maiden speech at any rate。��10�А�I can understand that�察�owing to
the magnitude of the questions�察�in these early days of your ministry you
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