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is sent to Delos��12�А�there is nothing elsewhere from any quarter of the 

world   which   can   compete   with   it�察  �nor   will   you   find   in   any   other   state 

collected so fair a flower of manhood as in Athens�殖�13�А�

     ��10�А  �Cf   Arist。   ;Rhet。;   ii。   12�察  。�oi   neoi   pepaideuntai   upo   tou   nomou 

monon��。 

     ��11�А。�dia logou��。 

     ��12�А�See Thuc。 iii。 104�察�and below�察�IV。 viii。 2。 

     ��13�А�See references ap。 Schneider and Kuhner�察 �Symp。; iv。 17。 

     Hipp。 You say truly。 



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     Soc。 But for all that�察�it is not in sweetness of voice that the Athenians 

differ from the rest of the world so much�察�nor in stature of body or strength 

of   limb�察  �but   in   ambition   and   that   love   of   honour��14�А  �which   most   of   all 

gives a keen edge to the spirit in the pursuit of things lovely and of high 

esteem。 

     ��14�А�See below�察�v。 3�察�Dem。 ;de Cor。; 28 foll。 

     Hipp。 That�察�too�察�is a true saying。 

     Soc。   Do   you   not   think�察  �then�察  �that   if   a   man   devoted   himself   to   our 

cavalry also�察�here in Athens�察�we should far outstrip the rest of the world�察�

whether in the furnishing of arms and horses�察�or in orderliness of battle´ 

array�察  �or   in   eager   hazardous   encounter   with   the   foe�察  �if   only   we   could 

persuade      ourselves     that  by   so   doing    we    should    obtain    honour    and 

distinction�拭�

     Hipp。 It is reasonable to think so。 

     Soc。 Have no hesitation�察�therefore�察�but try to guide your men into this 

path�撮�15�А�whence you yourself�察�and through you your fellow´ citizens�察�will 

reap advantage。 

     ��15�А   �Or�察   �to   conduct     which    will   not   certainly    fail  of   profit   to 

yourself or through you to 。 。 。; 

     Yes�察�in good sooth�察�I will try ��he answered��。 



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     At   another    time�察  �seeing    Nicomachides       on   his  way    back   from    the 

elections   ��of   magistrates���撮�1�А  �he   asked   him�此  �Who   are   elected   generals�察�

Nicomachides�拭�

     ��1�А  �Cf。   ;Pol。   Ath。;   i。   3�察  �Aristot。   ;Ath。   Pol。;   44。   4�察  �and   Dr。   Sandys' 

note ad loc。 p。 165 of his edition。 

     And he�此�Is it not just like them�察�these citizens of Athensjust like them�察�

I sayto go and elect�察�not me�察�who ever since my name first apepared on 

the muster´roll have literally worn myself out with military servicenow 

as a captain�察�now as a coloneland have received all these wounds from 



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the enemy�察�look you� 。�at the same time�察�and suiting the action to the word�察�

he bared his arms and proceeded to show the scars of ancient wounds�� 

they elect not me ��he went on���察�but�察�if you please�察�Antisthenes� �who never 

served as a hoplite��2�А�in his life nor in the cavalry ever   made a brilliant 

stroke�察�that I ever heard tell of�察�no� �in fact�察�he has got no science at all�察�I 

take it�察�except to amass stores of wealth。 

     ��2�А�Cf。 Lys。 xiv。 10。 

     But still ��returned Socrates���察�surely that is one point in his favour he 

ought to be able to provide the troops with supplies。 

     Nic。    Well�察  �for   the  matter    of   that�察 �merchants     are   good    hands    at 

collecting stores�察�but it does not follow that a merchant or trader will be 

able to command an army。 

     But ��rejoined Socrates�� Antisthenes is a man of great pertinacity�察�who 

insists on winning�察�and that is a very necessary quality in a general。��3�А�Do 

not you see how each time he has been choragos��4�А�he has been successful 

with one chorus after another�拭�

     ��3�А�See Grote�察 �Plato�察─�i。 465 foll。 

     ��4�А  �Choir´master�察     �or   Director    of  the   Chorus。    It  was    his  duty   to 

provide and preside over a chorus to sing�察�dance�察�or play at any                          of 

the     public    festivals�察   �defraying      the   cost    as    a   state   service     of 

��leitourgia��。 See ;Pol。 Ath。; iii。 4�察 �Hiero�察─�ix。 4�察�Aristot。                 ;Pol。 Ath。; 

28。 3。 

     Nic。 Bless me� �yes�察�but there is a wide difference between standing at 

the head of a band of singers and dancers and a troop of soldiers。 

     Soc。 Still�察�without any practical skill in singing or in the training of a 

chorus�察�Antisthenes somehow had the art to select the greatest proficients 

in both。 

     Nic。 Yes�察�and by the same reasoning we are to infer that on a campaign 

he will find proficients�察�some to marshal the troops for him and others to 

fight his battles�拭�

     Soc。 Just so。 If in matters military he only exhibits the same skill in 

selecting   the   best   hands   as   he   has   shown   in   matters   of   the   chorus�察  �it   is 

highly probable he will here also bear away the palm of victory�察�and we 



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may presume that if he expended so much to win a choric victory with a 

single tribe�撮�5�А�he will be ready to expend more to secure a victory in war 

with the whole state to back him。 

     ��5�А�See Dem。 ;against Lept。; 496。 26。 Each tribe nominated such of its 

members as were qualified to undertake the burden。 

     Nic。 Do you really mean�察�Socrates�察�that it is the function of the same 

man to provide efficient choruses and to act as commander´in´chief�拭�

     Soc。 I mean this�察�that�察�given a man knows what he needs to provide�察�

and has the skill to do so�察�no matter what the deparment of things may be 

house or city or armyyou will find him a good chief and director��6�А�of 

the same。 

     ��6�А�Or�察 �representative。; 

     Then   Nicomachides�此  �Upon   my   word�察  �Socrates�察  �I   should   never   have 

expected   to   hear   you   say  that   a   good   housekeeper��7�А  �and   steward   of   an 

estate would make a good general。 

     ��7�А�Or�察 �economist;�察�cf。 ;Cyrop。; I。 vi。 12。 

     Soc。 Come then�察�suppose   we examine their   respective duties�察�and so 

determine��8�А�whether they are the same or different。 

     ��8�А�Lit。 ;get to know。; 

     Nic。 Let us do so。 

     Soc。 Well then�察�is it not a common duty of both to procure the ready 

obedience of those under them to their orders�拭�

     Nic。 Certainly。 

     Soc。 And also to assign to those best qualified to perform them their 

distinctive tasks�拭�

     That�察�too�察�belongs to both alike ��he answered��。 

     Soc。 Again�察�to chastise the bad and reward the good belongs to both 

alike�察�methinks�拭�

     Nic。 Decidedly。 

     Soc。 And to win the kindly feeling of their subordinates must surely be 

the noble ambition of both�拭�

     That too ��he answered��。 

     Soc。 And   do   you   consider   it   to   the   interest   of   both   alike   to   win   the 



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adherence of supporters and allies�殖�9�А�

     ��9�А  �In   reference   to   the   necessity   of   building   up   a   family   connection 

or political alliances cf。 Arist。 ;Pol。; iii。 9�察�13。 

     Nic。 Without a doubt。 

     Soc。 And does it not closely concern them both to be good guardians 

of their respective charges�拭�

     Nic。 Very much so。 

     Soc。 Then it equally concerns them both to be painstaking and prodigal 

of toil in all their doings�拭�

     Nic。 Yes�察  �all   these   duties   belong   to   both   alike�察  �but   the   parallel   ends 

when you come to actual fighting。 

     Soc。 Yet they are both sure to meet with enemies�拭�

     Nic。 There is no doubt about that。 

     Soc。   Then   is   it   not   to   the   interest   of   both   to   get   the   upper   hand   of 

these�拭�

     Nic。 Certainly�察�but you omit to tell us what service organisation   and 

the art of management will render when it comes to actual fighting。 

     Soc。 Why�察�it is just then�察�I presume�察�it will be of most service�察�for the 

good economist knows that nothing is so advantageous or so lucrative as 

victory     in  battle�察  �or   to  put   it  negatively�察    �nothing     so  disastrous     and 

expensive       as   defeat。   He    will   enthusiastically      seek    out   and    provide 

everything conducive to victory�察�he will painstakingly discover and guard 

against all that tends to defeat�察�and when satisifed that all is ready and ripe 

for    victory    he   will   deliver    battle   energetically�察    �and   what    is   equally 

important�察�until   the hour   of   final   preparation   has   arrived�撮�10�А �he   will   be 

cautious      to  deliver    battle。   Do   not   despise     men    of  economic       genius�察�

Nicomachides�察  �the   difference   between   the   devotion   requisite   to   private 

affairs   and   

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